David Grossman and The Limit - Bars

David Grossman and The Limit.

If you have never heard of David Grossman, don't worry; you are going to meet him. But first, let's introduce you to his music. Bars is a twelve-song CD release from Stump Records of Phoenix, Arizona. The CD has the added bonus of two "fugitive performance" videos, live performances of David Grossman's Guitar String Tattoo and Too Much, Too Late, Too Many.

The music will pick you up by the boots and not let you down once throughout album. It's real songwriting from a master. True grit. This is something that can only be written by the person who has lived it, felt it and bled for it. David Grossman delivers pure gold!

Bars is the title of the new CD from David Grossman and The Limit. It's about being in them and being behind them. Bars - David Grossman has experienced both, numerous times. The writer's rule says write what you know and David does this exceptionally well.

I like this CD, a lot. I have been playing it almost non-stop for the last several days. I have also been reading everything I can about David Grossman. As much as I like the Bars CD, I almost began this review by writing about David himself. If I did, we would never get to the review…

Bars is the twelfth album from singer/songwriter David Grossman. The Limit is Greg Lisi (drums), Johnny Kempt (bass), and Jason Montero (guitar, harmonies). There are also guest appearances by Terry Anderson (saxophone - Guitar String Tattoo), John Gallager (juice harp - The Warden is a Woman)and Matt Murman (trumpet).

'The found him laying out behind the arcade, the boys back home say your girlfriend's getting laid. The day he got out, he hitched a ride… The boy's never been around now he's on the wrong side of town. Billy, take the long way… you take the long way home. Karma Patrol has got him on the run." - Billy Take The Long Way

Two kinds of bars, one too many…

David Grossman is a folk singer, he writes folk songs. So do Bob Dylan, Paul Simon, Tom Waits and Lyle Lovett. Let's not forget Neil Young. Walking on Windows is the first song on the album and rocks with the same intensity as the best of Neil Young from his Crazy Horse days. Loads of attitude with a good driving bass, this is a very solid track.

Bars is the name of the new David Grossman and the Limit album.

Denny's (co-written by David Grossman and Ed Haynes) has an edgy, alternative sound. "My girlfriend left me, my car caught on fire, a couple weeds got me arrested and I just got fired… It's three a.m. and I'm stoned, drunk, bummed out at Denny's" Drinking endless cups of coffee. The fourth song, Government Problem, is another a driving rock ballad.

Too Late, Too Much, Too Many is one of the two songs that is also included as a video on the Bars CD. Pop it in your computer, open your favorite video player and look for the .mpeg files. You will get to see David prepare for Too Late, Too Much, Too Many. It is interesting to see him get into character for this song. He obviously puts a lot of effort here. I also liked the vocal range going all the way down to a very credible Tom Waits growl.

"When you're in prison, if you happen to play guitar, usually it's the high E string they use for the needle to make the tattoos, this can be very useful if you plan on not getting killed, or beat up or any of the other terrible things. This can be very useful. It's called protection, or so I hear," David Grossman's introduction to Guitar String Tattoo (fugitive performance video).

Last Call changes the tempo to a bittersweet folk ballad. "Another last call, turning up the music louder, sweeping the smoke from the floor, as he turned to go, she offered him one more… Two cars heading out in the distance, headlights heading out separate ways."

Stranger In The White Room and Your World are two very personal songs for David Grossman. I am certain of it. They are true folk songs filled with very personal feelings and heart. Simple. Beautiful.

Guitar String Tattoo is folk jazz straight up. David's songwriting and delivery backed by a superb saxophone thanks to Terry Anderson. It is my favorite track off the album: smooth and very cool.

"Dirty letters, dirty letters like I-o-u-a-f-u-c, can you please send me one sometime today. I see nothing but walls and it's breaking my b-a, Dear tell me you want us together, and write me a real dirty letter. 'Well your mother is fine, so is the dog, the plumber came by said the drains were all clogged. The rent it is late and the bills are all due.' But these aren't the words that I'm wanting from you. Dirty leters, dirty letters…" It gets real lonely behind bars. - Dirty Letter Waltz

Bars from David Grossman and The Limit is a very balanced CD, the rock ballads, tender folk songs and a taste of jazz. It starts hard and fast and finishes on a sweet note. Everything in between just seems to fit. A DJ at a folk/rock radio station would love it. Queue up the disc and let it play. The variety and the quality would make his station manager proud.

Produced by David Grossman, Johnny Kempt and Matt Murman, and mixed by Matt Murman, who does an excellent job with all of the tracks, all of which were either recorded live or in Grossman's home studio.

"Karma Patrol has got him on the run… Billy take the long way, you take the long way home." Billy Take The Long Way - Bars CD.

David Grossman vs. the Karma Patrol

An article about David originally published in the Phoenix New Times, Feb 08, 2001 begins with the following: "Singer-songwriter overcomes addiction, jail, homelessness and psych wards to start a family and pen some of the best songs you've never heard."

David Grossman has overcome personal hardships, admittedly some of his own design, he did start a family, and luckily for us, he continues to write some very remarkable songs. Thirteen albums worth to date, with Bars just released through the Stump Records label, So-Low Motion is the title of his next release.

Today David performs his music six or more nights a week at various Phoenix Arizona clubs, he has a wife and a son, they have a house in the desert, two cars and some horses. He earns his living doing what he loves. It might have turned out different.

Johnny Kempt, David Grossman, Jason Montero and Greg Lisi.

For much of his life, the karma patrol did seem to have David Grossman in its sights. Born in San Francisco, adopted while a baby, his parents divorced when he was four. At age ten his mother abandoned him.

David was raised Jewish, he even attended Hebrew school, studying Hebrew in the morning and English in the afternoon. Now living with his father, he converted to Episcopalian following his father's path. David even spent time in a Jesuit school for boys. His spiritual outlook became clouded.

"I hated school. I was sent to a Jewish school and was taught Hebrew the first half of the day and English the second half of the day. I was learning to read from right to left in the morning and from left to right in the afternoon." - Six Months by David Grossman

The feeling of abandonment still haunted David. "I did feel unwanted when my mom didn't want me," Grossman says. "I thought everybody was depressed as a kid." He began spending time on therapist's couches to deal with his growing depression. He also experienced his first few run-ins with the law.

"For me a spiritual experience was driving through Jack in the Box. You talk to the clown, you get a couple tacos. It was magic. That was instant gratification. It started freaking me out."

Music became an outlet. It also helped to pass the time while grounded to his room. No phone, no television, no games, just his guitar and notebooks. David wrote, David practiced. He got good.

The San Francisco Neo-Folk Scene

Entering the Bay area neo-folk scene with a vengeance, a fourteen-year-old David Grossman was good enough that one Bay Area publication wrote of him, "...a kid who's so good that he's going to have songwriters in the city scared silly."

While in the tenth grade, David's family relocated to Arizona. David's father allowed him to stay in San Francisco on his own, to finish his school year and keep up with the music scene.

Things were going very well, David was playing nightly, recording songs, and even headlined the San Francisco Songwriter's Showcase at the Great American Music Hall.

The next two years found David in Arizona, living with his father and finishing high school as agreed. David traveled back and forth between Phoenix and San Francisco to continue doing gigs.

After graduation, David returned to the Bay Area and the folk music scene. He was living in his '76 Maverick, working temp jobs for food and gas money, and playing in clubs just about every night. Not long after that, the karma patrol caught up with David Grossman. And so it went…

"I got polluted by everybody telling me I was gonna be famous," Grossman says with a shrug. "People that wanted me to be big because they want me to become big. I'm grateful to be able to do what I do. Just so damn grateful."

The Chinanski Club of Incarcerated Drunks

Fast forward karma patrol: bad luck and bad decisions; drugs, alcohol, and homelessness; hospitalization, more drugs, and jail, and one day finding all your worldly possessions stuffed into a paper bag. This was David Grossman's life.

Lose a job, lose a car, lose a girlfriend, add an overdose on crystal meth followed by even more time in the psych wards. Court ordered treatments and twelve step programs followed. But somehow, someway, the karma patrol that had been haunting David's life was beginning to lose its grip. David took the long way home…

"Showing us videos of alcohol and drugs was like showing sex offenders porno movies. The guys in the class were drooling. I don't think those videos were helping anyone. But I wasn't much help either. I wrote to Black Sparrow Press and asked for Bukowski books. Black Sparrow sent me a whole box of Bukowski - with titles like "Dirty Old Man" and "Women." Everyone wanted to read those books. Before I knew it they were all calling each other "Chinanski". Chinanski is a Bukowski character who gets drunk a lot. It was like a club: the Chinanski club of incarcerated drunks. Six Months - by David Grossman.

In nineteen ninety-one David met the woman he would marry. They met in the most unlikely of places, a Phoenix mental ward. Kriss, David's wife, was there to change medications, they had hours together to do nothing but talk. Kriss empathized and David was certain, God was on his side.

David's problems were not solved overnight, but Kriss was supportive. A string of DUIs earned David a four-month sentence; a mistake with his paperwork put him in maximum security for a month. And so it went.

David Grossman's life and ultimate success is a fascinating story. He has written an autobiographical novel titled Six Months that is a great read, and an inspiring story for anyone who has ever felt like the karma patrol has you in its sights.

Read all of Six Months by David Grossman online at David's website.

Review by jack "papa" baer - December 31st, 2001

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The Bars Album

David Grossman and The Limit - Bars CD

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  1. Walking On Windows
  2. Government Problem
  3. Dennys
  4. Too Late Too Much Too Many
  5. Last Call
  6. Billy Take The Long Way
  7. Waiting For The Yard
  8. Stranger In The White Room
  9. Guitar String Tatoo
  10. Dirty Letter Waltz
  11. The Warden Is A Woman
  12. Your World
David Grossman has been compared to Tom Waits, Lyle Lovett, Randy Newman, Paul Simon, James Taylor, Nanci Griffith, and Bob Dylan by the Arizona Republic, San Francisco Examiner, New Times Magazine, and more.
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All Songs Memorized

When David Grossman first appears for one of his gigs in the clubs of Phoenix, he passes around a Music Menu, a twenty-four page volume filled with hundreds of song titles, all songs memorized.

In addition to his own many songs, the Song Menu includes titles from artists such as Cat Stevens, Elton John, Neal Young and the Talking Heads. Sarah MacLachan, Tom Waits & Jackson Browne? Yes, and a great many others. The result? steady work and high demand.

How do you measure success in the music world? With ocean view homes in Malibu, high in the hills overlooking the "merely rich?" Manhattan penthouses? London town homes? Or are you successful when you can adopt comic book names, surround yourself with bodyguards and act like a spoiled, egotistical ass? Or is there a better way?

In addition to his demand as a performer, David Grossman has also been recognized by the press and fellow musicians:

How do you measure success in the music world? With accomplishments and respect.

David Grossman Discography

www.davidgrossman.com
davidgrossman@mp3.com
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"In this case I was going to have to sacrifice certain behaviors if I was going to get back together with Kriss. Because of the law I had sacrificed drinking. Because of her religion I would have to sacrifice cigarettes and sacrifice being single. The cigarettes were tough." Six Months - by David Grossman.

Visit David's website for more of his music, free downloads and concert schedule. Read his autobiographical novel Six Months online.

Visit Stump Records for more information on David Grossman and The Limit as well as info on other artists on the Stump Rcords Label.

The Limit behind bars…

David Grossman has spent time in various institutions including a stretch in the Arizona State Prison System. It was here that most of these songs were written.

Jason Montero has spent time in Texas jails in the 1990's

Johnny Kempt was almost arrested for disturbing the peace on several occasions.

Greg Lisi has been arrested for unpaid parking tickets.

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